cardinal, he was really widely seen as the conscience of the church in looking at the impact of the global economy on the poorest. and that is something that i think is a real hallmark of his stewardship and something we'll want to see how he brings that conscience and that economic understanding to the papacy. >> shepard: 500 million catholics in latin america. it's been a. >> did you're trying to send a couple of messages, it seems -- with divine inspiration picked a man of and by and for the people, if you will, and have also said latin america, we recognize you. >> i think that's exactly right. i think when he greeted everyone with buenos aires and there was -- just that thunderous wave of applause in st. peter's square, it said it all. the catholic church has gone through tremendous scandal, tremendous strain. it's suffering. it's had a deep moral and economic crisis, and it's looking for someone to lead it through to a new beginning. i think hearing those words, buenos aires, was the first harkening of that change. or at least a recognition that hope is very strong out there for change. we'l